In the first episode the No Matter What podcast, Jasmine shares about the her transformative experience as part of MARR’s Right Side Up program. Before coming to RSU, she lived in a room where she blocked out all the light. While in treatment, she gradually come around to become a bright embodiment of the RSU principles and way of life, serving on the alumni committee and regularly volunteering at groups with current clients. It was Jasmine who began using the phrase “No Matter What” with women in treatment to remind them that recovery is always possible. The phrase has since become something of a motto and mission statement for the women of RSU.